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    a Ninja in training, itís important to know when, where and who to fight, as well as knowing how to fight. But the most important thing to know is when not to fight!!

    Thereís no point in learning all the techniques required to win a battle if you then take on the wrong opponent. Itís a bit like trading GBP/USD instead of GBP/JPY. Although they move very similarly, they can be very different and they have mastered different forms of fighting backÖ

    There are a number of scenarios where itís inadvisable to trade. These can be separated into personal/environmental reasons and market reasons.

    Personal reasons not to trade:

    Get rid of all distractions. You need to be able to concentrate on the charts and not get caught up with other things going on. For instance you might be waiting for a trade and then you get distracted and when you come back to your chart you have missed the trade or you buy instead of selling etc. Distractions can be costly. However, life is full of distractions so put the cat in the hall and shut the door. Put the baby in the playpen where you can see/hear her but at least you wonít have to worry that she has wandered off againÖ Whatever your potential distractions are, deal with them before you start to trade. Even a Ninja can lose a fight if distractedÖ

    Emotional times. If something emotional has happened, and you canít be subjective, then do not trade! This could be any number of things that had a negative impact on your day. It could be that you broke up with your partner to a death in the family etcÖ You need to be able to assess whatís happening in a very short period of time, and if you are mentally elsewhere then this can have a negative impact on your trading accountÖ
    The personal times that you shouldnít trade can really be summed up as times when you are out of synch with your normal body rhythm. These are times where your emotions or environment can negatively affect the way you trade, and can seriously hamper the likelihood of a successful trade. The good news is these tend to be things that you can control or have some degree of control over. The market reasons for not taking a trade are a bit different. These tend to be external where you have very little or no control over them. These can really kick you in the butt and leave you limping for a while. Ignore these at your Peril!!

    Market Reasons not to trade:

    Bank Holidays. These are scheduled and there is nothing you can do about it. If there is an USA or UK Bank Holiday I donít bother trading. This is because the Banks are the biggest participants in the Forex market. If they are on holiday then the volume of transactions being carried out is greatly reduced. This can lead to either really static markets or on occasion erratic markets. Either way it does not follow the normal pattern, so I stay clear.
    If however, itís a Bank Holiday in another country such as Japan or Australia then I wouldnít trade currencies that belong to those countries, e.g. jpy or aud pairs, but would still trade the gbp/usd/chf etc pairsÖ

    News. There are scheduled news releases, and economic news, that is due to be released throughout the day. These can be found, in advance, in a number of places but the most popular one seems to be the Forex Calendar, provided by Forex Factory.

    There are 3 types of news; yellow, orange and red. Each has a different impact and is all explained in the calendar. There tend to be folders that generally are not a good idea for a new trader to try and trade. High impact, red folders, can really move the market, sometimes spiking in both directions, before settling done. These are high risk times where a lot of people get stopped out.

    The oneís I specifically avoid would be the ISM Manufacturing data, interest rate announcements and NFP related news announcements. However, itís not just the announcements themselves that can affect the market. The rumours surrounding what the potential numbers will be can cause the markets to move in anticipation. Therefore, itís not a good idea to trade, for the hour before or after the news. With NFP, itís a good idea not to trade that day at all.
    Now that may seem extreme, but these can be the biggest account killers and can wipe out a new account in a few seconds.

    Speeches. These tend to generally be on the calendar as well. If specific people are talking then please do not trade. These people include the ECB President Jean-Claude Trichet, Fed ChairmanBen Bernanke and BOE Governor Mervyn King. Itís important that when the BOJ Governor Masaaki Shirakawa speaks to pay attention. These tend to happen when people are asleep so less of a worry. But if you are trading the Japanese session then be wary!!

    These people are notorious for dropping hints about economic policy changes that are likely to happen with the currency they are responsible for. These hints cause a lot of speculation in the market and therefore a lot of price movement. These can be big currency movers as they are generally responsible for setting Interest rates in those countries, and as mentioned above interest rate announcements can cause large movements.

    Erratic Periods. There will be times where a currency is moving differently from normal. Perhaps itís spiking and you donít know why. This is a good time to stay out of the market. If you donít understand why itís moving like this then itís generally because there is unscheduled news that has been released or leaked. This is generally bad news and the market is still unsure as to how to react to it. For instance, this was happening during the recent credit crunch and the various Banks reporting that they were having major difficulties.

    Weekends. Itís unadvisable to hold trades over the weekend, unless your method is a long term strategy which specifically involves holding trades for longer time frames, such as weeks or months.

    A lot can happen over the weekend. All it would take is for 1 Bank to go bust over the weekend for your position to go completely different from how you expectedÖ A terrorist attack could happen over the weekend, which would also move the markets crazily. Now these might seem out of the norm but if you look these have happened recently on more than 1 occasion.

    These types of events will generally lead to the market opening again will a large gap and generally with a large change in your position. A lot of times this can cause serious harm to your trading account balance.

    Market close/open. Good idea to avoid these or be wary around these times. At market close a number of trading positions are being closed. This will lead to volatility in the currency markets and can cause the price to move erratically. The same applies at market open. A lot of people are opening positions as they do not want to hold them over the weekend for the reasons stated above.

    December and Summer Holidays. Banks tend to trade the Forex markets at least once a day for balance sheet reasons and can also trade a number of times throughout the day for speculation reasons.

    When I say balance sheet reasons, I mean to balance out their currency book. They need a certain amount of each currency to meet the demand of their customers, both personal and business, that will need to buy foreign currency from the bank or exchange their foreign currency for their local currency. Banks have to balance this out each day otherwise they leave themselves open to Foreign exchange risk. This means Banks are the major players in the Forex market.

    So during December and the summer months a lot of Bank staff take their holidays. Therefore, Forex markets generally slow down as there are fewer participants in the marketplace. This is generally a good time for private traders such as us to take a holiday. If the markets are flat thereís no point in trading so go off and enjoy yourself.

    You gotta keep your body in prime fighting condition but holidays are also part of giving your mind some relaxing time to recharge those batteries, ready to go when you return.

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    when the market off that when Saturday and Sunday. we also do not trade when the big day like Christmas, New Year, etc. because at that time all markets will be closed so that we will not be able to trade

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    You have mentioned some of the main factors which lead to losses and should be controlled in time so that any negative trade to be avoided, but all things are learned by a trader with experience.

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    when we're emotions then we strongly not recommended for trading because emotions will only bring bad impact on our trading and therefore we need to trade with the state of mind the cold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic84 View Post
    You have mentioned some of the main factors which lead to losses and should be controlled in time so that any negative trade to be avoided, but all things are learned by a trader with experience.
    Of course, experience is the best teacher for us, so we should learn from it to get more maximal result in forex. And as a trader, we must try to more improve our trading in forex. But there is time that we should not trade, especially when our emotion is not controlled.

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    The most appropriate time for not trading forex is when the market closes like a weekend with so that we will be able to evaluate trading. with the evaluation of trading then we will be able to assess our trading; so that we would be better off trading again

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