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    Hi Tro,
    I went to your profile and to the other website and downloaded the zip file.. I have a chart set up with the TRO_DYNAMIC_FIBS_SR_TRAIL loaded.

    Please explain what you mean in your method by "semafor" - I take it the numbers 123 on the candles are this but was it included in the zip file and if so which one? Or could you please post one here?

    Are there any other necessary indicators for this method?

    thanks for the help man - I'm sure you won't get banned from here.
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    Hi @ all,

    thx TRO for your new "Drain the banks" REV07

    Regards

    Criss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ-Trader View Post
    Hi Tro,
    I went to your profile and to the other website and downloaded the zip file.. I have a chart set up with the TRO_DYNAMIC_FIBS_SR_TRAIL loaded.

    Please explain what you mean in your method by "semafor" - I take it the numbers 123 on the candles are this but was it included in the zip file and if so which one? Or could you please post one here?

    Are there any other necessary indicators for this method?

    thanks for the help man - I'm sure you won't get banned from here.
    It's in the zipfile where I posted the DRAIN THE BANKS method. No, I will NOT post my code here and I wish others would not post my code here or anywhere else. It becomes a maintenance nightmare having code posted in more than one location.

    If you look on the right side of the chart, you'll see WAIT in the gauge. THIS IS THE INDICATOR TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO.

    The legend in the upper left was put there for people who could NOT understand what the triggers were.

    It appears that you are NOT using the template I provided. I suggest you download DRAIN THE BANKS REV 007 and install it properly.
    Last edited by TheRumpledOne; 06-05-2009 at 10:58.
    IT IS NOT WHAT YOU TRADE, IT IS HOW YOU TRADE IT!


    You are on the internet - If you (google) search for it, you'll probably find it.

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    2009.06.17 DRAIN THE BANKS REV 8



    New additions include the BetterVolume 1.4_TRO_MODIFIED_VERSION, TRO_STOPPING_VOLUME and TRO_MM_STOPPING_VOLUME.

    For those of you who where having problems with REVERSAL TRADES, these indicators should help you. When you see an "X" on top of or next to a semafor, that is an indication to look for a reversal trade. The TRO_MM_STOPPING_VOLUME shows the status of the TRO_STOPPING_VOLUME on all chart periods.

    FREE MT4 version of DRAIN THE BANKS, including SOURCE CODE and TEMPLATE, have been posted.
    IT IS NOT WHAT YOU TRADE, IT IS HOW YOU TRADE IT!


    You are on the internet - If you (google) search for it, you'll probably find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ-Trader View Post
    Hi Tro,
    I went to your profile and to the other website and downloaded the zip file.. I have a chart set up with the TRO_DYNAMIC_FIBS_SR_TRAIL loaded.

    Please explain what you mean in your method by "semafor" - I take it the numbers 123 on the candles are this but was it included in the zip file and if so which one? Or could you please post one here?

    Are there any other necessary indicators for this method?

    thanks for the help man - I'm sure you won't get banned from here.
    Russ, look on the RIGHT SIDE of the chart... that's where the indicator tells you what to do. Most of the time it says WAIT.
    IT IS NOT WHAT YOU TRADE, IT IS HOW YOU TRADE IT!


    You are on the internet - If you (google) search for it, you'll probably find it.

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    Don't let the rat beat you.

    "Unless you experience the unpleasant symptoms of being wrong, your brain will never revise its models. Before your neurons can succeed, they must repeatedly fail. There are no shortcuts for this painstaking process."

    Pg 54 - HOW WE DECIDE


    "Look, for example, at this elegant little experiment. A rat was put in a T-shaped maze with a few morsels of food placed on either the far right or left side of the enclosure. The placement of the food is randomly determined, but the dice is rigged: over the long run, the food was placed on the left side sixty per cent of the time. How did the rat respond? It quickly realized that the left side was more rewarding. As a result, it always went to the left, which resulted in a sixty percent success rate. The rat didn't strive for perfection. It didn't search for a Unified Theory of the T-shaped maze, or try to decipher the disorder. Instead, it accepted the inherent uncertainty of the reward and learned to settle for the best possible alternative.

    The experiment was then repeated with Yale undergraduates. Unlike the rat, their swollen brains stubbornly searched for the elusive pattern that determined the placement of the reward. They made predictions and then tried to learn from their prediction errors. The problem was that there was nothing to predict: the randomness was real. Because the students refused to settle for a 60 percent success rate, they ended up with a 52 percent success rate. Although most of the students were convinced they were making progress towards identifying the underlying algorithm, they were actually being outsmarted by a rat."

    Pg 64 - HOW WE DECIDE


    "Think about the stock market, which is a classic example of a "random walk," since the past movement of any particular stock cannot be used to predict its future movement. The inherent randomness of the market was first proposed by the economist Eugene Fama, in the early 1960's. Fama looked at decades of stock market data in order to prove that no amount of knowledge or rational analysis could help you figure out what would happen next. All of the esoteric tools used by investors to make sense of the market were pure nonsense. Wall Street was like a slot machine."

    Pg 67 - HOW WE DECIDE


    TRADING IS SIMPLE:

    * Price either goes up or down.
    * No one knows what will happen next.
    * Keep losses small and let winners run.
    * POSITION SIZE = RISK / STOP LOSS
    * The reason you entered has no bearing on the outcome of your trade.
    * You can control the size of your loss (skill) but you can't control the size of your win (luck).
    * You need to know when to pick up your chips and cash them in.
    IT IS NOT WHAT YOU TRADE, IT IS HOW YOU TRADE IT!


    You are on the internet - If you (google) search for it, you'll probably find it.

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    QUOTE:

    "TRADING IS SIMPLE:

    * Price either goes up or down.
    * No one knows what will happen next.
    * Keep losses small and let winners run.
    * POSITION SIZE = RISK / STOP LOSS
    * The reason you entered has no bearing on the outcome of your trade.
    * You can control the size of your loss (skill) but you can't control the size of your win (luck).
    * You need to know when to pick up your chips and cash them in."

    Very intelligent quote !
    If you follow these rules, you will have a better chance of success.

    thanks for this !

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJeff View Post
    Surely if it is that easy then would you make an ea for everyone, correct?
    If so I look forward to testing if not then it is not that easy.

    Regards,
    Jeff
    If you take this one literally, then all you can do 5 pips/trade most as Tro proved it already with his own trading. But even for this you will need years of experience as Tro.
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    It's a manual setup that repaints. It works for Tro and that's the reason he is so enthusiastic.
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    Referencing previous swing high/low where TIME_EXTENT=SQRT(PREVIOUS_SWING_RANGE)
    is one of these obscure trader formulas from Gann era. If you plug it in back into SQ9 chart, you should also get price targets and when time matches price/time cluster - bingo. SQ9 chart is simply a square calculator of pre computer era but beats the odds if you know how to use it.
    I doubt Tro is adept in that. He can technically code it but just doesn't understand which way it works (common among coders).
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    So Tro coded it in(but not entirely not SQ9 price) . It's a useful indi for human brain that operates on pattern recognition or cognitive principal, but not for computer that operates on hard set of rules.
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    So you better think human and don't try thinking as computer. If you are EA coder, then you might have that dilemma.Some EA coders believe computer language (man made) is superior to natural intelligence, but will realize the opposite.
    *****
    Of cause math is universal language, but there are higher levels of math modern computers can't touch, they are too primitive. Some coders understand the limitation and simply develop useful indicator aids. But again some who don't will face bariers again and again. Modern computing isn't the cutting edge and MT4 is far from it. There are very few thing you can do.
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    I tried to develop more complex models and the problem - I started hitting processing power limit before I even get to results I wanted.
    ******

    So this indi is just a little aid, but a good one and should be used with other stuff.
    Last edited by Metatrader7; 08-28-2009 at 07:34.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRumpledOne View Post

    Pg 64 - HOW WE DECIDE


    "Think about the stock market, which is a classic example of a "random walk," since the past movement of any particular stock cannot be used to predict its future movement. The inherent randomness of the market was first proposed by the economist Eugene Fama, in the early 1960's. Fama looked at decades of stock market data in order to prove that no amount of knowledge or rational analysis could help you figure out what would happen next. All of the esoteric tools used by investors to make sense of the market were pure nonsense. Wall Street was like a slot machine."

    r chips and cash them in.
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    Yes it is chaos, but chaos precisely synchronized with the rotation of Earth at a speed of 1 degree of rotation per 4 minute of time. Time factor rules over everything in this world. It's the first and most subtle material element. If you understand time, you'll get control over all things in this world. This is is real and you can predict next swing with few pips accuracy (5 pip average). Done this myself.
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    Time unfolds into other elements through reciprocal laws of consciousness, of relating to itself (square and cubic equations) through harmonic degrees or aspects. Modern science is barely getting to this point of understanding. So it has modern names like quantum theory, etc. (Soros have quantum fund for example)
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    Ancient Egyptian and Vedic math systems are built around natural math and profound understanding of natural law.

    There is entirely different level of thought. Yes it's been esoteric and obscure, but it is very real for everyone who is ready and want to cultivate real knowledge.
    I don't feel like laying all the final math here at the moment.
    However to prove the point you can construct Gann lines on M1 at angles 4 point/minute, also 2,1... and all natural harmonics of 4 points per minute applying to major tops, bottoms and you should see it is not a coincidence that they hit other tops and bottoms. Of cause this is just observing an effect and doesn't mean you understood underlying law and can forecast using this method. Perhaps that makes most very frustrated and negative against these methods. It takes a great degree of tweaking sq9 formula. All I can tell there is an intricate reciprocal formula to it, yet it is simple - high school can do.Also I never seen it spelled in Gann courses or other overpriced courses. Gann wrote the way where clues are given, but you have to arrive to final formula on your own. Perhaps it's a natural mechanism prevention from abuse. I was very pissed at his writings myself. It just finally came to me years later. It also creates overpriced "The Secret" hype industry but I didn't see answeres spelled in-there either. Gann writings are available for free in Gann study Yahoo group, hope it is still around.
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    By the way Tro, your own posts "All you need is horizontal line" rather suggest markets aren't random. Generally I agree with horizontal lines, but trading around even numbers is a too crude for me, although it does work not that effective though.
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    YouTube - Magical Egypt - Mathematics
    Here is the prove that modern computing is based on same principals discovered by Ancient Egyptian mathematicians.
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    Tro - all the smart ass code you invent actually runs through a processor that operates by laws discovered by Ancients. Just imagine - all your bragging rights on the forum, all your living - all that - you owe to Eternal principals of mathematics and not some dubious title from the 60s that you quote.
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    Tro, are you really for the Truth in the forums? Are you really that consistent with your own claims?

    *****
    Good video on sacred geometry. Keep in mind Fibos and other famous ratios are effects and not the causes, not actual code of how they being formed.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4joeKCWLpI
    ******
    This series is a good intro for esoteric doctrine, but again gives no code, but you can figure it.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujAlmq_v32c
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVqfceBdcoA
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVqfceBdcoA
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Lhyxj_09HQ
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YvL7sWZWgg
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    All the above rather explains - no amount of price study gets you real close,because price action is an effect - the output. If you want better trade results-, have to study time and above that - math ofinvisible factors that are in the interactions of time and price or space. What's seen on the charts isn't sufficient info and mimicking price action with indicators based on same price action isn't the best way. There is underlying law that connects price pivots through time spans and yes it does work in advance. And no it isn't just mechanically projecting previous time cycle with fibos that everybody does. A bit more sophisticated then that. I am pretty sure you've been around and seen a lot (of junk) but doesn't mean you tried it all either
    Last edited by Metatrader7; 08-29-2009 at 13:00.

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